Why do you reject hadiths

[Maha]

With praying God to exalt the prophets, I'm still praying to God, not to the prophets.

Of course, prophets are exalted already, but what I'm praying for is that God save their, let's say, reputation in people's eyes and hearts. For example, many hadtih followers believe Muhammad said pretty silly things such as "woman are deficient in intelligence" or they believe he married a nine year old girl when he was 50+ etc. On the other hand, in Qur'an, we have that The Almighty said that in  Muhammad we have excellent pattern, and I don't see the hadith mentioned above give an excellent example. Now, I am praying to Allah swt to "take off" those inappropriate epithets from Muhammad, in the eyes of people who believe in God and his messengers. You can also apply this silliness attributed to any other prophet described in hadith, Bible, Torah...

Hope you understand what I'm saying.

Peace.

Peace sister.

you have a point, but prayer is ment to glorify God, not to praise prophets you never met IMO.

You still didnt replied to why you, going by that logic, cannot pray the jewish way if you just include quranic verses as well.

[Shila]

Peace sister.

you have a point, but prayer is ment to glorify God, not to praise prophets you never met IMO.

You still didnt replied to why you, going by that logic, cannot pray the jewish way if you just include quranic verses as well.

Peace

I am prying for all the believers as well.

Sorry about that, I had that answer in my mind, but I forgot to write it in my reply.

When I pray, I pray in Arabic, because it is the language of Qur'an. I don't know many Torah passages, but even if I did, I would look for Qur'anic equivalent and pray with it. I do like hearing Christians saying Halleluyah, but I'd go with Alhamdulillah since the both have the same/similar meaning, it's only I prefer Arabic.

[Bigmo]

Peace

I am prying for all the believers as well.

Sorry about that, I had that answer in my mind, but I forgot to write it in my reply.

When I pray, I pray in Arabic, because it is the language of Qur'an. I don't know many Torah passages, but even if I did, I would look for Qur'anic equivalent and pray with it. I do like hearing Christians saying Halleluyah, but I'd go with Alhamdulillah since the both have the same/similar meaning, it's only I prefer Arabic.

I pray in Arabic also since this is what I am used to.

[Maha]

Peace

I am prying for all the believers as well.

Sorry about that, I had that answer in my mind, but I forgot to write it in my reply.

When I pray, I pray in Arabic, because it is the language of Qur'an. I don't know many Torah passages, but even if I did, I would look for Qur'anic equivalent and pray with it. I do like hearing Christians saying Halleluyah, but I'd go with Alhamdulillah since the both have the same/similar meaning, it's only I prefer Arabic.

One thing is to prefer arabic like you, which is a personal choice and perfectly fine, another thing is that God understands all languages and arabic isnt necessary in order to pray. One can pray in any language he wants.

i dont see any requirement or necessity of praying in arabic. You are reciting non-quranic passages as well, so why would it be a problem to recite non-arabic passages as the torah? If one wants to include torah in his prayer I dont see any problem in it as well

Peace

[6619]

Why do you guys reject hadiths and why do you think that Hadiths are false and fabrications but still followed by more than 90% of muslims for more than 1000 years ?

Why Allah allowed such a massive corruption in his last and final religion ?

Salaam,
This is because: http://www.islamrevolution.org/hadithstheshameofislam.htm

[Shila]

One thing is to prefer arabic like you, which is a personal choice and perfectly fine, another thing is that God understands all languages and arabic isnt necessary in order to pray. One can pray in any language he wants.

i dont see any requirement or necessity of praying in arabic. You are reciting non-quranic passages as well, so why would it be a problem to recite non-arabic passages as the torah? If one wants to include torah in his prayer I dont see any problem in it as well

Peace

Do what you think it's right, I already stated my opinion.

Salaams.

[Indelwyn]

And GOD will then explain you Quran. I don't know how he does that but, for sure, he will do it if the reader is sincere (however i can't imagine how he can do such a thing for people not knowing arabic, since i was not in this difficult case)

Well praise to God that he can do ALL things, because I have no understanding of Arabic. Just the 3 surah's I have taught myself. I do everything else in english. At the rate of my ability to learn Arabic I should be about 100 yrs old before I can read Quran. Spent 2 years on the Alphabet and still have issues recognizing letters.

[JavaLatte]

Why do you guys reject hadiths and why do you think that Hadiths are false and fabrications but still followed by more than 90% of muslims for more than 1000 years ?

Salaam, brother rameez.

Do you believe that most people who claim to be Muslims are really Muslims?

Everyone can say that "I am a Muslim".

I personally think that definitive answer to find out whether we are Muslims (who submit to Allah), or whether we are the believers, the right answer for it will only known for sure when we receive it from God (on the Day of Judgment).

Are you willing to really listen to the Qur'an carefully? 

If you believe it is from God, then listen to its messages in earnest.

The more you compare Qur'an with hadith, I hope you will be able to feel that there are so many conflicting messages between them.

The hadiths mix between the looking good messages and the bad messages. And sometimes, the bad messages also hidden/cryptic. Saying that the words of hadith are Muhammad's words => seems to be a powerful weapon to invite other people easily believe it.

Have you ever read hadiths Qudsi? The hadith in the name of God, one type of hadith in which the prophet Muhammad's sayings leaning to God, or in other words, the prophet narrated the words of God.

But they are still said to be hadiths, and they are not part of the Qur'an. Isn't that very suspicious?

Indirectly, it is such a claim that there are still another words of God scattered outside the Qur'an.

Hadith Qudsi is the blasphemy against the Qur'an. Only evil people can made such a fraud: using the prophet's name to write the 'words of God' created by their own.

In my opinion, to be safe from this kind of crime, Muslims have to start their own effort to get to know their own holy book (the Qur'an).

Do you believe the Qur'an because the scholars say that it is genuine, or do you believe the Qur'an because you are told that it was brought by Muhammad and collected by his companions?

It's a belief that could be going unsteady.

I strongly suggest that you believe in the Qur'an because you study/analyze the Qur'an itself. Study the Quran, and then decide by yourself whether you will believe in it or not. Your trust in the Qur'an should be something you decide for yourself and not because of the scholars say it came from Muhammad.

The scholars and preachers say this and that about Muhammad (the information they get from the hadiths).

But I feel the character of the last prophet mentioned in the Qur'an is very different from the character of the prophet that I read from the hadith.

Why Allah allowed such a massive corruption in his last and final religion ?

Doomsday has not arrived. The devil and his followers still have time.

God is testing us. God allowed satan to disrupt human until doomsday arrives. They will perform variety of ways to deceive us.

Be careful. I trust only God to lead and put me in a straight path.

May God help us to find the best way of life.

Peace.

[scaredmuslimah]

I just wanted to add this:  The more I think about hadith, the more I feel as if they limit God.  Seriously.  To say that one can only recite the Qu'ran in Arabic, and that if they don't have the Arabic Qu'ran then they don't have the real one.  To say that womens prayers will not be accepted while they are menstruating, to say that if a person does not pray a certain way or if they leave out a certain area of a prayer their prayer is not accepted.  All of these things are in hadith, not the Qu'ran, and they limit God. 

God is the Creator, the Judge, the All-Knowing...is He not limited by our shortcomings. 

This is another reason I began to reject hadiths.  The thought that God was keeping tabs on whether I said "Bismillah" as I walked into my home with my right foot first...didn't make sense.

Peace,

Amina

[Maha]

I just wanted to add this:  The more I think about hadith, the more I feel as if they limit God.  Seriously.  To say that one can only recite the Qu'ran in Arabic, and that if they don't have the Arabic Qu'ran then they don't have the real one.  To say that womens prayers will not be accepted while they are menstruating, to say that if a person does not pray a certain way or if they leave out a certain area of a prayer their prayer is not accepted.  All of these things are in hadith, not the Qu'ran, and they limit God. 

God is the Creator, the Judge, the All-Knowing...is He not limited by our shortcomings. 

This is another reason I began to reject hadiths.  The thought that God was keeping tabs on whether I said "Bismillah" as I walked into my home with my right foot first...didn't make sense.

Peace,

Amina

and they also say that non-muslims (which includes quranists and other muslims they disagree with) prayers would not be accepted as well. Only their particular prayer according to their particular sectarian rules will be accepted. When I was sunni, the local mullah told me to cover my head carefully since if even one hair was visible my prayer wont be accepted.. that i have to make proper wudu otherwise my prayer wont be accepted... and so on.. so all my energy was exhausted on focusing on whether my whole head was covered or not, i repeated wudu several times in order to ensure that i had made the wudu proper and so on.. so the focus was more on the ritual then on the spiritual aspect of prayer...

the problems with sectarians are that rituals are seen as a goal in itself.