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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #780 on: November 06, 2022, 07:07:43 PM »
you saying this case sister gets 1/2 ?
and mother gets how much exactly ?

to see try: three sisters and mother ?
hint: you cannot solve two unknowns!

btw, why post stuff you cannot defend risk burning? 4:10

For each ground situation mandatory share is prescribed/ordained as: and   وَصِيَّةٙ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ
Remaining is according to the The Bequest by the death expecting Person; leaving behind worldly wealth, subsequent to his death, is partially modified and superseded by Allah the Exalted by apportioning certain part of his wealth; inalienably assigning it to certain Survivors. As for the remaining part of wealth, the Will can also be modified to make corrections for visible tilt and injustice by the Testator. In case he died a sudden death without leaving the Will, it is for surviving kin of just repute to administer justice regarding the part of wealth other than inalienably apportioned by Allah the Exalted

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #781 on: November 11, 2022, 04:30:09 AM »
For each ground situation mandatory share is prescribed/ordained

you keep posting not answering

? nine sisters (4:12 or 4:176)
? mother

https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2097
Jabir bin 'Abdullah said:
"I was ill, so the Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)came to visit me and found me unconscious. He came walking while Abu Bakr and 'Umar were with him. The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) performed Wudu, then poured the remaining water on me, so I came to my senses. I said: 'O Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)! how shall I dispose of my wealth?' - or - 'What shall I do with my wealth?' He did not reply anything to me" -and he had nine sisters- "until the Ayah about the inheritance was revealed: they ask you for a legal verdict. Say: "Allah directs (thus) about Al-Kalalah." Jabir said: "It was revealed regarding me."


https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2096
Jabir bin 'Abdullah said:
"The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) came to visit me while I was ill at Banu Salamah. I said : 'O Prophet of Allah(S.A.W)! How shall I divide my wealth among my children?' But he did not say anything to me, until the following was revealed: Allah commands you regarding your children's (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females."


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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #782 on: November 11, 2022, 06:05:24 AM »
you keep posting not answering

? nine sisters (4:12 or 4:176)
? mother

https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2097
Jabir bin 'Abdullah said:
"I was ill, so the Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)came to visit me and found me unconscious. He came walking while Abu Bakr and 'Umar were with him. The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) performed Wudu, then poured the remaining water on me, so I came to my senses. I said: 'O Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)! how shall I dispose of my wealth?' - or - 'What shall I do with my wealth?' He did not reply anything to me" -and he had nine sisters- "until the Ayah about the inheritance was revealed: they ask you for a legal verdict. Say: "Allah directs (thus) about Al-Kalalah." Jabir said: "It was revealed regarding me."


https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2096
Jabir bin 'Abdullah said:
"The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) came to visit me while I was ill at Banu Salamah. I said : 'O Prophet of Allah(S.A.W)! How shall I divide my wealth among my children?' But he did not say anything to me, until the following was revealed: Allah commands you regarding your children's (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females."

If this is one case:
? nine sisters (4:12 or 4:176)
? mother

Both fall in the category of parent and near ones for whom otherwise bequest is prescribed (2:180)

The deceased is the person defined in 4:176.
Thereby 2/3 is inalienable share allocated by Allah swt.
Mother will get whatever deceased decided in bequeathed.

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #783 on: November 11, 2022, 12:33:36 PM »
If this is one case:
? nine sisters (4:12 or 4:176)
? mother

Both fall in the category of parent and near ones for whom otherwise bequest is prescribed (2:180)

The deceased is the person defined in 4:176.
Thereby 2/3 is inalienable share allocated by Allah swt.
Mother will get whatever deceased decided in bequeathed.

you committed a sin told a lie! does it say nine or exactly two?

4:11 ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
4:176 فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَ ۚ

فَإِن fa-in (so if)
كَانَتَا kānatā (are feminine dual)
ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
فَلَهُمَا falahumā (so to them dual)
ٱلثُّلُثَانِ l-thuluthāni 2/3 (1/3 each)

btw, he suddenly fell off his camel (no will)
hint: no father, mother is variable (this case)

consider repenting retract everything you ever wrote on topic perhaps you'll be forgiven



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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #784 on: November 11, 2022, 01:31:52 PM »
you committed a sin told a lie! does it say nine or exactly two?

4:11 ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
4:176 فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَ ۚ

فَإِن fa-in (so if)
كَانَتَا kānatā (are feminine dual)
ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
فَلَهُمَا falahumā (so to them dual)
ٱلثُّلُثَانِ l-thuluthāni 2/3 (1/3 each)


btw, he suddenly fell off his camel (no will)
hint: no father, mother is variable (this case)

consider repenting retract everything you ever wrote on topic perhaps you'll be forgiven

The maximum allocation by Allah swt is 2/3rd of inheritance. If died a sudden death, all are not dead. It will be decided by the family/tribe.

There was no need of saying 7 or nine.
You naively "abrogate" the basic rule and injunction in 2:180 and also the verdict in 4:33.

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #785 on: November 11, 2022, 02:10:27 PM »
The maximum allocation by Allah swt is 2/3rd of inheritance. If died a sudden death, all are not dead. It will be decided by the family/tribe.

There was no need of saying 7 or nine.
You naively "abrogate" the basic rule and injunction in 2:180 and also the verdict in 4:33.

Do you find difference or understand what is the difference:

فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَۚ

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #786 on: November 11, 2022, 08:44:24 PM »
The maximum allocation by Allah swt is 2/3rd of inheritance. If died a sudden death, all are not dead. It will be decided by the family/tribe.

There was no need of saying 7 or nine.
You naively "abrogate" the basic rule and injunction in 2:180 and also the verdict in 4:33.

making up stuff digging yourself in the fire and spreading more lies!
people die at all ages in accidents, bed, battle, drowning, murder, etc.
and no, not up to you and tribe who cannot read to steal their wealth

https://sunnah.com/bulugh/7/223
Narrated Sa'd bin Abi Waqqas (RA):
I said, "O Allah's Messenger, I have wealth and no one to inherit from me except my one daughter. Shall I give two-thirds of my property as Sadaqah?" He replied, "No." I said, "Shall I give half of it as Sadaqah?" He replied, "No." I said, "Shall I give a third of it as Sadaqah?" He replied, "You may give a third as Sadaqah, which is still a lot. To leave your heirs rich is better than to leave them poor and begging from people." [Agreed upon].

Do you find difference or understand what is the difference:

فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَۚ

yes, unlike you who missed “duals” and 2 means exactly 2 NOT > 2 (3+)

you obviously are oblivious and cannot read, ask nicely to show you?

? sisters (2+)
? mother (variable, no father)
OR
? father (same as to mother)

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #787 on: November 12, 2022, 12:55:51 AM »
Do you find difference or understand what is the difference:

فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَۚ

What are the differences in these two sentences?

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #788 on: November 12, 2022, 06:18:27 AM »
What are the differences in these two sentences?

first we have to establish definition of "two" or if it also means "nine"

according to your tribe of nineteen morons (masculine)     تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً

? sisters (2+)
? mother (variable, no father)
OR
? father (same as to mother)

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Re: Inheritance according to Qur?an
« Reply #789 on: November 12, 2022, 07:08:56 AM »
first we have to establish definition of "two" or if it also means "nine"

according to your tribe of nineteen morons (masculine)     تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً

? sisters (2+)
? mother (variable, no father)
OR
? father (same as to mother)

First thing is to know how to read a book. Mere words do not constitute the meanings of tect. Meanings are much larger than the sum total of meanings of individual words.

فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

What for is particle Fa? What is فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ for; what is its function/role? What is كُنَّ ? Is it a single word or more than that? If two whom the pronoun refers?
Unless you try to understand reading Arabic text all conclusions are erroneous and fallacious.